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    Baltimore vs. San Francisco (baseball-style)

    by Bill Chuck on February 1, 2013

    Comparing the Super Bowl contenders from a baseball perspective

    Okay, I don’t pretend to be a football expert, I simply pretend to be baseball expert. I start watching football after the World Series ends, and throughout the regular season I watch the NFL Red Zone Channel which has continuous plays from around the league. I do this because I have a tendency to fall asleep during the frequent and long commercial breaks when watching one game and the Red Zone Channel is commercial free.

    The downside of the channel is that I have no idea of the records of the teams that I am watching and so when I see a series of plays I really have no idea whether there are playoff implications involved. This all changes in the postseason, when I start watching actual games (yes, I did fall asleep at the end of a second quarter through half-time and much of a third quarter of one game) and I decide who to root for as I start watching the games.

    This year I was particularly pleased with the teams that reached the Super Bowl. Ray Lewis is apparently a hideous human but his impending retirement makes for a great story and Colin Kaepernick was drafted by the Cubs and I like that. In addition, I had fantasies of the Orioles facing the Giants in the World Series and Game 6 would have been the night of Halloween and I thought it was apropos that two teams dressed in orange and black would be playing.

    Alas, that was not to be. However, San Francisco does have the chance to have two parades and multiple car burnings as they possibly “party” again, Baltimore can be thankful for their revival as a two-sport city and most importantly, we can all celebrate that New Orleans can once again host the gala.

    While some people are excited about the Super Bowl in order to crown a new champion, others may love the spectacle, some look forward to the commercials, some teachers are just happy there is a reason to still teach Roman numerals, but for me, I believe that when the Super Bowl is done, baseball unofficially begins.

    With that in mind I figured to compare Baltimore and San Francisco baseball-style

    Orioles Hall of Famers

    Players            Years played with Orioles

    1. Roberto Alomar          1996-98
    2. Robin Roberts 1962-65
    3. Frank Robinson          1966-71
    4. Brooks Robinson*      1955-77
    5. George Kell     1956-57
    6. Luis Aparicio  1963-67
    7. Hoyt Wilhelm 1958-62
    8. Jim Palmer*    1965-67, 69-84
    9. Reggie Jackson            1976
    10. Eddie Murray*           1977-88, 96
    11. Cal Ripken, Jr.*          1981-01

    * Played more games with Orioles than any other club.

    Managers        Years with Orioles

    1. John McGraw 1901-02
    2. Frank Robinson**      11988-91
    3. Wilbert Robinson        1902
    4. Earl Weaver     1968-82, 85-86

    ** Elected as player.

    Executives       Years with Orioles

    1. Lee MacPhail, General Manager         1959-65

    Giants Hall of Famers

    Players (19)                Years with Giants

    1. Roger Bresnahan         1902-08
    2. Orlando Cepeda          1958-66
    3. Roger Connor              1883-94
    4. George S. Davis          1893-1901, 1903
    5. William “Buck” Ewing            1883-92
    6. Frankie Frisch             1919-26
    7. Monte Irvin                1949-55
    8. Travis Jackson                        1922-36
    9. George Kelly               1915-17,1919-26
    10. Fred Lindstrom           1924-32
    11. Ernie Lombardi           1943-47
    12. Willie Mays                1951-72
    13. Willie McCovey         1959-73,1977-80
    14. Johnny Mize              1942-49
    15. James O’Rourke          1885-92, 1904
    16. Mel Ott                       1926-47
    17. Bill Terry                    1923-36
    18. Monte Ward               1883-89,1893-94
    19. Ross Youngs               1917-26

    Pitchers (10)   Years with Giants

    1. Carl Hubbell                1928-43
    2. Tim Keefe                   1885-91
    3. Juan Marichal             1960-73
    4. Rube Marquard           1908-15
    5. Christy Mathewson   1900-16
    6. Joe McGinnity             1902-08
    7. Amos Rusie                1890-98
    8. Mickey Welch                        1883-92
    9. Hoyt Wilhelm             1952-56
    10. Gaylord Perry             1962-71

    Managers (1)   Years with Giants

    1. John McGraw             1902-32

    Others who spent part of their career with Giants (23)         Years

    1. Dave Bancroft 1920-23,1930
    2. Jake Beckly     1896-97
    3. Dan Brouthers            1904
    4. Jesse Burkett  1890
    5. Steve Carlton  1986
    6. Gary Carter     1990
    7. Leo Durocher  1948-55
    8. Burleigh Grimes          1927
    9. Charles “Gabby” Hartnett      1941
    10. Rogers Hornsby          1927
    11. Waite Hoyt     1918, 1932
    12. Willie Keeler   1892-93, 1910
    13. Mike “King” Kelly     1893
    14. Bill McKechnie           1916
    15. Joseph “Ducky” Medwick     1943-45
    16. Joe Morgan     1981-82
    17. Edd Roush      1916, 1927-29
    18. Ray Schalk      1929
    19. Albert “Red” Schoendienst     1956-57
    20. Duke Snider    1964
    21. Warren Spahn 1965
    22. Casey Stengel  1921-23
    23. Hack Wilson   1923-25

    Broadcasters Who Spent Part of Their Career Covering The Giants (3)       Years

    1. Russ Hodges   1958-70
    2. Lindsay Nelson           1979-81
    3. Lon Simmons  1958-73; 1976-78; 1996-2002

    13 players played for each of these franchises exclusively

    1. Kurt Ainsworth
    2. George Bamberger
    3. Foster Castleman
    4. Tom Hafey
    5. Hooks Iott
    6. Fred Johnson
    7. Mark Leonard
    8. Luis Mercedes
    9. Lou Polli
    10. Guillermo Rodriguez
    11. Hank Thompson
    12. Fuzz White
    13. Eli Whiteside

    Trades between Baltimore Orioles & San Francisco Giants

    1. December 6, 2005: The Baltimore Orioles traded Steve Kline to the San Francisco Giants for LaTroy Hawkins.
    2. July 31, 2003: The San Francisco Giants traded Ryan Hannaman (minors), Kurt Ainsworth and Damian Moss to theBaltimore Orioles for Sidney Ponson.
    3. July 23, 1998: The San Francisco Giants traded Darin Blood (minors) to the Baltimore Orioles for Joe Carter.
    4. December 9, 1996: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Mike Johnson from the San Francisco Giants.
    5. April 29, 1993: The San Francisco Giants traded Kevin McGehee to the Baltimore Orioles for Luis Mercedes.
    6. March 20, 1993: The San Francisco Giants traded Mark Leonard to the Baltimore Orioles for Steve Scarsone.
    7. August 8, 1990: The San Francisco Giants purchased Jay Aldrich from the Baltimore Orioles.
    8. March 26, 1989: The Baltimore Orioles traded Ken Gerhart to the San Francisco Giants for Francisco Melendez.
    9. January 24, 1989: The San Francisco Giants traded Bob Melvin to the Baltimore Orioles for Terry Kennedy.
    10. April 9, 1985: The San Francisco Giants traded Kelvin Torve to the Baltimore Orioles for Tommy Alexander (minors).
    11. July 27, 1977: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Ken Rudolph from the San Francisco Giants.
    12. December 15, 1962: The Baltimore Orioles traded Jimmie CokerJack Fisher and Billy Hoeft to the San Francisco Giants for Mike McCormickStu Miller and John Orsino.
    13. September 1, 1960: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Dave Philley from the San Francisco Giants.
    14. November 30, 1959: The San Francisco Giants traded Jackie BrandtGordon Jones and Roger McCardell to theBaltimore Orioles for Billy Loes and Billy O’Dell.
    15. February 14, 1959: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Whitey Lockman from the San Francisco Giants.
    16. March 24, 1958: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Foster Castleman from the San Francisco Giants for $30,000.
    17. April 21, 1956: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Billy Gardner from the New York Giants for $20,000.
    18. April 8, 1954: The Baltimore Orioles purchased Dave Koslo from the New York Giants.
    19. July 16, 1951: The St. Louis Browns purchased Bill Jennings from the New York Giants.
    20. November 14, 1935: The New York Giants purchased Dick Coffman from the St. Louis Browns.

    All-time Records for each club

    Franchise

    From

    W

    L

    W-L%

    Pnnts

    WS

    Players

    HOF#

    BA

    R

    RA

    ERA

    Baltimore Orioles

    1901

    8,241

    9,121

    .475

    7

    3

    1698

    28

    .259

    75,220

    80,061

    4.01

    San Francisco Giants

    1883

    10,616

    9,102

    .538

    22

    7

    1667

    56

    .264

    92,643

    85,195

    3.55

    All-time Orioles HR Leaders

    Rk Player HR From To
    1 Cal Ripken 431 1981 2001
    2 Eddie Murray 343 1977 1996
    3 Boog Powell 303 1961 1974
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 2/1/2013.

    All-time Giants HR Leaders

    Rk Player HR From To
    1 Willie Mays 646 1951 1972
    2 Barry Bonds 586 1993 2007
    3 Mel Ott 511 1926 1947
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 2/1/2013.

    All-time Orioles Wins Leaders

    Rk Player W From To
    1 Jim Palmer 268 1965 1984
    2 Dave McNally 181 1962 1974
    3 Mike Mussina 147 1991 2000
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 2/1/2013.

    All-time Giant Wins Leaders

    Rk Player W From To
    1 Christy Mathewson 372 1901 1916
    2 Carl Hubbell 253 1928 1943
    3 Juan Marichal 238 1960 1973
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 2/1/2013.

    Baltimore vs San Francisco head-to-head in baseball

    Date Tm Opp RS RA W L Inn
    2002-06-21 Baltimore Orioles @ San Francisco Giants L 3 4 0 1
    2002-06-22 Baltimore Orioles @ San Francisco Giants W 4 2 1 1
    2002-06-23 Baltimore Orioles @ San Francisco Giants W 3 1 2 1
    For 2002, MLA, SLB and BAL won 2, NYG and SFG won 1.
    Date Tm Opp RS RA W L Inn
    2004-06-12 (1) Baltimore Orioles San Francisco Giants L 6 9 2 2 11
    2004-06-12 (2) Baltimore Orioles San Francisco Giants W 5 4 3 2 12
    2004-06-13 Baltimore Orioles San Francisco Giants L 3 7 3 3
    For 2004, MLA, SLB and BAL won 1, NYG and SFG won 2.
    Date Tm Opp RS RA W L Inn
    2010-06-14 Baltimore Orioles @ San Francisco Giants L 2 10 3 4
    2010-06-15 Baltimore Orioles @ San Francisco Giants W 4 1 4 4
    2010-06-16 Baltimore Orioles @ San Francisco Giants L 3 6 4 5
    For 2010, MLA, SLB and BAL won 1, NYG and SFG won 2.
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
    Generated 2/1/2013.

    As if this posting isn’t meaningless enough…I pick the 49ers.

    Enjoy the game.

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